No Dancing at New Atlantic Yards Watering Hole
Last night Community Board 6’s Public Safety Committee approved the liquor license request for the proposed falafel/pizza/gastropub at 604 Pacific Street, a business that residents expressed many concerns about at a board meeting last month. The business intends to lease part of the storefront occupied by the mattress warehouse across from Atlantic Yards. Its owners…
Last night Community Board 6’s Public Safety Committee approved the liquor license request for the proposed falafel/pizza/gastropub at 604 Pacific Street, a business that residents expressed many concerns about at a board meeting last month. The business intends to lease part of the storefront occupied by the mattress warehouse across from Atlantic Yards. Its owners have met with residents and the Flatbush Avenue BID and agreed to stipulations about their operations. They’re as follows: no dancing; no outside promoters; private trash pickup with all refuse remaining inside until pickup day; a 24-hour business number to contact; soundproofing; signage asking patrons not to congregate on the street; security guards and extra security during events; and no outdoor space. The one request that hasn’t been agreed upon are its Thursday night hours: Community members have asked that the bar close at 2 a.m., but the owners are insisting on a 4 a.m. closing time. Ultimately the Public Safety Committee passed the bar/wine license for the pizza and falafel joint and the full liquor license for the gastropub. They also asked that the establishment close at 2 a.m. on Thursdays. It will move on to the full board for a vote next month.
A community board attendee also complained about noise coming from next door, at 602 Pacific Street, where Machavelle Sports Bar & Lounge opened over the weekend, according to Patch. Their liquor license was approved by the SLA and they managed to sidestep community board proceedings before opening. CB6’s public safety chair said he would contact other board members about the matter and get in touch with the bar owner, who apparently lives in the building upstairs.
Community Airs Qualms About Bar Near Barclays [Brownstoner] GMAP
“huh? Where did I say anything about racially motivated?”
Sorry, I was responding to dirtyhippy’s “moonface locavore” comment and many others who are claiming that the “urban” crowd is being treated differently than gentrifiers. (See the Prime6 debate). Should have made that clearer.
c’mon Garden boy, dont tell me you dont go into a club or bar and chuck down a few cocktails, swag home and pee in the street! Maybe you should get in touch with your “friend”, HW and find out why he is profitting from the AY? Just as I predicted, all those opposed the AY, are now proffiting from the same venue they didnt want in the neighborhood. Dont forget, the arena will have their own bar and restaurant inside, many fans will be drinking and eating at the arena and then taking the train home to LI. The LIRR is right there. I bet if a gay bar opened in the neighborhood, no one would protest that. And we all know what kind of shananigans go on Sunday nights at a rowdy gay bar, right Mr. gardenboy?
“Is it illegal to have dark windows at a bar? ”
no
I agreed with most of your post brooklynthoughts, until that last part.
Is it illegal to have dark windows at a bar? Is the owner of a drinking estalishment required to inform folks when he/she obtains a liquor license? What on earth is a “thug in a cocktail dress?”
This place sounds like a lot of other clubs in NYC to me. No worse, no better.
“Why arent folks out there protesting this joint?”
No one’s stopping you.
The folks protesting the intrusion of bars on their block are the residents who fought away every kind of social ill imaginable for a residential block. THey don’t live on a commercial strip, the commercial strip is coming to them. And they ARE fighting 602 as well… but these bars are just the tip of the iceberg. Once the “Urina” opens across the street, and that 20,000 seat bar lets loose with its drunken fans… well, good save us all!
People in that area have lived through prostitution and drugs and have survived. they have lived through vacant stores and survived. Now business is booming and they start complaining. What the hell do these folks want? The arena is here and games are not the only entertainment coming to this venue. it will be a conferecne center, concerts, family entertainment (Disney on Ice, Ice Capades). there will be more restaurants and bars and stores of all kinds coming soon to Flatbush Avenue. So get used to it, its a commercial strip and its called revitalization!!!! Get used to hit! stop complaining. What the neighbors should be upset about is this 602 Pacific Street. They seem like thugs in a cocktail dress. No one wants to come forward as the owner, they have dark windows and may be operating without a liquor license. Pretty sneaky if you ask me. Why arent folks out there protesting this joint?
Look, these folks have every right to choose what to get upset over and to challenge it however they want within legal bounds. Realistically, though, not only are these bars going to open, but they hardly seem worth the time. The Nets will play 41 games at home a year. Few of those will be on weekends, meaning few people will hang around at bars afterward. We’re really talking about a significant crowd that might gather at these bars roughly 12 times a year. I’ve had neighbors who throw parties more often that that.
My cynical side appreciates the fact that Park Slope quality of life advocates, many of whom just yawned and ignored the fight over the stadium, are now up in arms over the inevitable follow-ons from the stadium getting built.
As pointed out, most of the restrictions mentioned are already laws in this city. And just about all bars everywhere have signage reminding patrons to be respectful of residents, which is routinely ignored, unfortunately (and actually a ban on cigarette smoking outdoors would really take care of this problem, as most of the noise comes from drunken smokers congregating outside of bars). There is indeed a lot of resentment for certain Fifth Avenue establishments, as well as the Union Hall and others in Park Slope and beyond.