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June 15, 2006
FCR Sued, Issued Violation for Pacific Street Demo
Forest City Ratner was given a violation yesterday in connection with a Stop Work Order issued on Saturday at 620 and 622 Pacific Street. DOB found several code violations on site--including a defective safety fence--when it visited the site last weekend after calls from disgruntled neighbors at 624 Pacific. The rent controlled tenants at 624, at least one of whom is a member of DDDB, had filed a civil lawsuit last week over alleged improper usage of a backhoe during demolition work. The Atlantic Yards Report wrote yesterday that the residents would be seeking to file a criminal complaint in upcoming days. As for the violation, the maximum penalty is $2,500 which must really be keeping Bruce up night.
FCR Cited for Not Stopping Demo Work [NY Times]
Criminal Complaint to be Filed [Atlantic Yards Report]
Photo by David Gochfield
Comments
Just another example of Ratner not giving a s%it about anyone in the community or anything but the good almighty dollar.
Posted by: Puca at June 15, 2006 10:07 AM
The White Masters at work
Posted by: Anonymous at June 15, 2006 10:11 AM
Yes, I'm sure Bruce Ratner himself is supervising directly the demolition. Why would he contract out? - it is such stimulating work and I'm sure that is what he must have studied for years to do. He solely and individually ordered that backhoe and said don't bother checking the safety fence.
Posted by: Anonymous at June 15, 2006 11:12 AM
11:12. Ratner is shorthand for Forest City Ratner. FCR is responsible for the demo. so the above posters are right. and you know that.
Posted by: Anonymous at June 15, 2006 11:30 AM
$2500? That's like the average citizen getting fine a penny. Yet another meaningless gesture by the anti-Ratner folks. This, too, shall pass and have absolutely no effect on the realization of the AY plan.
Posted by: Anonymous at June 15, 2006 12:13 PM
anon, you don't get it. FCR was demolishing a building abutting a residnetial building owned by FCR. FCR's contractors were supposed to do this by hand, that is the permit they had, yet they did it with machines, risking the safety of the tenants in the abutting building owned by FCR. AND FCR told its contractors that nobody lived in the abutting building of which FCR is landlord.
all the while, FCR has said they are doing these demolitions to protect public safety. their concern about public safety always seemed insincere, and with this demolition they have shown that to be so.
the point isn't the fine. the point is that once again, it is demonstrated that FCR cannot be trusted and FCR gives a hoot about the public and its safety.
Posted by: Anonymous at June 15, 2006 12:38 PM
and one other things. these aren't "anti-Ratner" folks, these are rent-stabilized tenants trying to make sure their building doesn't collapse due to an illegal demolition method.
Posted by: Anonymous at June 15, 2006 12:39 PM
I agree with Anon 12:13. This is a lot to do about nothing. This project is moving forward nicely given the city and state budgets both contain the small public investment in infrastructure that is needed to get it kick started.
Posted by: Jimmy in the Slope at June 15, 2006 12:40 PM
"and one other things. these aren't "anti-Ratner" folks, these are rent-stabilized tenants trying to make sure their building doesn't collapse due to an illegal demolition method."
The article clearly states at least one tenant is a member of DDDB, which is the most anti-Ratner group in existence.
Posted by: Anonymous at June 15, 2006 12:58 PM
yo - pro-ratner anons:
these are people who were sleeping when a freakin' backhoe started scraping the side of their homes at 7 in the morning! this is not about the stupid arena, it's about not being killed by idiot contractors and a cut-throat development company.
Posted by: chuck at June 15, 2006 1:11 PM
Yes, they should be following the rules. But me thinks we are going to get exagerated scrutiny with every step on this project. I clearly see construction site on my block where they just demolished garage - with backhoe, etc adjoining walkup apt building on side and house from behind.
And I doubt people next door are trembling in fear.
Posted by: Anonymous at June 15, 2006 1:16 PM
Agreed, 1:16. While technically in violation, these acts are being blown up in order to demonize Ratner. I am sure that there will be many more to come, whether or not Ratner is at fault. Just another failed tactic in a losing battle.
Posted by: Anonymous at June 15, 2006 2:17 PM
yeah, you guys are right. the less scrutiny the better.
actually, it would be very good if the Mayor issued blindfold's to all of us just to ensure that occurs.
you guys still don't get it. FCR spouts nonsense about protecting the safety of the community. then they tell their contracters that a residential buildingn THEY OWN is vacant while its fully occupied. then the contractors violate their permit, endangering the structure of building with sleeping tenants.
thats acceptable to you? okay then.
Posted by: Anonymous at June 15, 2006 2:33 PM
ok - so who at FCR told contractor that building was vacant and how do you know this?
Posted by: Anonymous at June 15, 2006 3:10 PM
Don't expect an answer on that one!
D-O-N-E-D-E-A-L!!!
Posted by: Anonymous at June 15, 2006 3:25 PM
I think people are starting to realize this project won't happpen. That's good in their minds because none of them wanted it in the first place.
Posted by: Anonymous at June 15, 2006 4:55 PM
Dream on!
Posted by: Anonymous at June 15, 2006 6:35 PM
Anon, 3:10:
The demo contractor says that Ratner told them that the building next door was occupied. A Forest City Ratner filing to the Empire State Development Corporation corroborates the contractor's story.
If you're interested, Atlantic Yards report has an in-depth article here, with follow ups here and here.
Posted by: NoLandGrab at June 16, 2006 8:01 AM
Look who just caught on (no HTML tags in Brownstoner comments).
For those of you who are actually interested, here are the links mentioned above, the IN-DEPTH article is here: http://atlanticyardsreport.blogspot.com/2006/06/rude-awakening-violations-issued-for.html
FOLLOW-UPS are here:
http://atlanticyardsreport.blogspot.com/2006/06/after-pacific-street-demolition.html
http://atlanticyardsreport.blogspot.com/2006/06/times-follows-up-another-violation.html
Posted by: NoLandGrab at June 16, 2006 8:09 AM
I agree. I don't think this project will ever happen. There are just too many court battles that Ratner faces! No one I know wants this thing!!!
Posted by: Anonymous at June 16, 2006 6:47 PM
You should travel out of your littl bubble once in a while. There are plent of people who want this project.
Posted by: Anonymous at June 18, 2006 12:41 PM
you should travel out of yours.
Posted by: Anonymous at June 19, 2006 3:02 PM

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