Update on the Lefferts Hotel?
We spent a lot of time talking about the problem-ridden Lefferts Hotel last summer and we haven’t heard much talk in the neighborhood since. According to one commenter In last week’s discussion of the near-by Broken Angel, things have not improved: The stipulation agreement entered into by the City and the Prince Hotel Group is…
We spent a lot of time talking about the problem-ridden Lefferts Hotel last summer and we haven’t heard much talk in the neighborhood since. According to one commenter In last week’s discussion of the near-by Broken Angel, things have not improved:
The stipulation agreement entered into by the City and the Prince Hotel Group is killing the Lefferts Hotel; he can’t make any money as a legitimate business concern. The place is dead and appears on the brink of shutting down. At the same time, property values are soaring all around the hotel and this section of Clinton Hill. If there was every a good time to get Mr. Fried to sell this beautiful building it is now.
What can other residents of Lefferts Place tell us about recent problems with the hotel? Why wouldn’t the owner, Moses Fried, be dying to sell? He could make a lot of dough and free himself of numerous headaches.
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So is this a good place to get a good hit and quit?
diabolical.
THE TROLL HAS ALTERED ALL OF THE CONTACT INFORMATION AGAIN. WHAT A PATHETIC LITTLE TWERP!
HE’S SO STUPID TO ACTUALLY THINK THAT COMMUNITY CONSCIOUS RESIDENTS OF CLINTON HILL – WHO ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, FAMIIIES AND BOROUGH – WOULD NOT TAKE THE EXTRA TIME TO DIG UP THE RIGHT INFORMATION FOR THEMSELVES. WHAT A RETARD!
BROWNSTONER, I AGREE WITH THE ABOVE POST. IT WOULD BE BEST TO DELETE ANYTHING ON THIS THREAD STARTING FROM SAT. FEB. 10TH. THEN SIMPLY END THE ABILITY FOR COMMENTS.
KEEP THE REST BECAUSE IT SERVES AS NOTICE TO CORRUPT INDIVIDUALS THAT CLINTON HILL RESIDENTS WILL NOT TOLERATE SHADY DEVELOPERS, LANDLORDS, ELECTED OFFICIALS OR A CRIME RIDDLED ENVIRONMENT.
This thread reeks of troll ass. Mr B. you might as well delete it.
I’ve been reading this thread over the past few days and I encourage concerned residents of Clinton Hill, PLG and other Brooklyn neighborhoods to get involved on the issue of the Lefferts Hotel, Pleasant Stay Hotel and the Meth Clinic on Waverly. Please email all interested parties below and express your views on the above issues. Including links to some of the Brownstoner.com “Park Slope Moms” threads would be a good idea too.
Contact List:
Lefferts Place Civic Association (LPCA)
mail@leffertsplace.info
Moses Fried and Prince Hotel Group
PrinceHotelGroup@aol.net
TheHotelPrince@aol.com
Councilwoman Tish James
james@council.nyc.ny.us
State Assemblyman
Hakeem Jefferies
jeffrih@assembly.state.ny.us
Ms. Delia M. Hunley-Adossa
President, 88th Precinct Community & Youth Council – Meets every third Tuesday of every month at 85 South Oxford Street Meeting time is 7:30 p.m.
Philip J. Sferrazza
Commanding Officer, Deputy Inspector
88th Precinct – (718) 636-6511
I’ve had it with the ridiculous conspiracy theories. The Prince Hotel Group…puhleeeezz. I could be wrong, but I’ll bet the person who floated THAT lame hypothesis was the little prick who used to post to this blog under the name of “Ed”. If so, I can only delight in the irony. Here’s this hateful little idiot basking in his elaborate theories about what could set a troll in opposition to PLG, when he himself is enough to make any sane person want to bomb this entire borough back to the Stone Age.
Prince Hotel Group. My ass. What’s next….a connection to UFO secrecy and Roswell? Lol.
Posted by: Al at February 9, 2007 8:18 PM
Gotcha 8:08. I wasn’t aware of all that, but I figured there had to be SOME explanation. Thanks.
Posted by: Anonymous at February 9, 2007 8:53 AM
I’m sorry but this guys is demented. He seriously needs to get a job, get laid and get psychiatric treatment. He’s totally whacko. He has converstations with himself all day long.
“great point” “i agree” ” i disagree” “we love him” “he’s clever” “he saved this site” “free speech” “first amendment” “the areas too dangerous” “let’s keep in dangerous and contained”
He’s a totally nut job. I bet he still wets his bed at night. He’s probably soaking wet this morning, drenched in urine and feces, laying on the bed with his lap top and a soiled porn mag next to him. Gleefully waiting for the next posted comment on Brownstoner. A true loser.
Posted by: Anonymous at February 9, 2007 9:24 AM
No, he’s probably posting in about a dozen other blogs about how the Lefferts Hotel needs to be close down, how you can reform criminals by moving them into poorer neighborhoods, etc. This clown is relentless and I fear Brownstoner isn’t the only blog that has to tolerate his bullshit.
Posted by: Anonymous at February 9, 2007 9:40 AM
Oh, and don’t forget Park Slope moms.
Posted by: Anonymous at February 9, 2007 9:43 AM
Oh come on, the Park Slope Mommy bashing was so clearly, obviously, blatantly NOT the work of one person and anyone with a brain and ability to read could have seen that. To the PS Mom at 9:43am, sorry you were offended by that thread back when it happened, it did get nasty, but you can’t chalk it up to “troll” activity when the topic of the Park Slope Mom has warranted numerous articles and essays in magazines, newspapers and websites, as well as threads on neighborhood blogs for years now. A “troll” is one person posting. Not dozens of people posting.
Posted by: Anonymous at February 9, 2007 10:24 AM
Hey shit for brains…why don’t you get yourself a nice reading comprehension test somewhere? No one said that one person made every post in that thread about PS moms. Idiot. The claim was that the troll–the Brownstoner Troll–was responsible for a lot of them and was, in effect, the driving force behind the thread. Got that, genius? Now put that bicycle helmet back on your head so that you don’t hurt yourself.
Posted by: Anonymous at February 9, 2007 11:38 AM
Thank you 11:38. What a bloody moron!!
Posted by: Anonymous at February 9, 2007 11:43 AM
🙂
Posted by: Katie at February 9, 2007 12:39 PM
note how the troll reposted that original e-mail about who to contact, but changed the phone #’s and e-mail addresses…
Posted by: Anonymous at February 9, 2007 12:52 PM
so go to 4:56 if you actually want the real info.
Posted by: Anonymous at February 9, 2007 1:37 PM
diabolical
Posted by: Anonymous at February 9, 2007 4:04 PM
Damn. This guy’s got it goin’ on!!!
Posted by: Anonymous at February 9, 2007 4:10 PM
I wonder if he’s hot. He sounds really hot!!
Posted by: Sarah at February 9, 2007 4:16 PM
BROWNSTONER,
Please delete the Trolls reposting of the contact list. He changed the phone #’s and e-mail addresses.
Who goes to this extent to prevent positive change in a community? I tell you who – principals of the Prince Hotel Group. It’s so clear the the Troll is under their employ.
Posted by: Anonymous at February 9, 2007 7:07 PM
Brownstoner, your reluctance to ban this insane lunatic is going to destroy your site. Spend the extra $1,000 to hire a tech guy to give you the ability to ban this idiot. He’s presence is not entertaining in the least.
Posted by: Anonymous at February 9, 2007 7:10 PM
Look, hate the guy if you must, but don’t say he’s not entertaining. He is! For me, he’s like a guilty pleasure, and half the people in our office this afternoon were in stitches. Maybe you take yourself a little too seriously. Lighten up. You’ll live longer.
Posted by: Vince at February 9, 2007 8:03 PM
Principals of the Prince Hotel Group? Gimme a break. What would they have against Park Slope mothers and bugaboos?
Posted by: Anonymous at February 9, 2007 8:06 PM
Yes….He’s trying to get the entire thread deleted by Mr. B. He know that the Press routinely views this site for possible stories and this is about to turn into something very big. I’m sending a copy of this thread to the reporters from the NY Daily News and the NY Sun who wrote multiple articles last year on Moses Fried and the Lefferts Hotel.
The only doubt I have about this hypothesis stems from the fact that the troll does NOT only surface in connection with PLG and its defenders. Remember a thread a while back about how increases police surveillance in Clinton Hill had cleared a particular intersection of drug dealing? Exactly the same troll sabotaged that thread. I’m also pretty confident that he did the same thing in connection with a post about Flatbush, but I haven’t found it yet.
Brownstoner and the Brownstoner Community:
It is now quite apparent as to the source of all of the aggravating troll posts on every PLG and Lefferts Hotel thread. The truth was smacking us dead in the face all along and everyone missed the connection!
The Prince Hotel Group (aka Moses Fried) owns the Lefferts and Pleasant Stay Hotels in Clinton Hill. He also owns 205 Parkside Avenue in Prospect Lefferts Garden. Mr. Fried had intentions to turn the huge massive building at 205 into an “Apartment Hotel/SRO”, i.e., a whorehouse/drug den, just like the Lefferts Hotel. But luckily, the PLG community caught wind of his plan and, being well aware of the happenings at the Lefferts Hotel, quickly organized and prevented Mr. Fried from obtaining the necessary variance to get his hotel built.
Moses Fried is not a stupid man. He knows fully well that he cannot run a successful whorehouse in an area that is pristine and decent so he chooses locations that are predominately black and poor. Well as it turns out he seriously underestimated the speed at which gentrification would spread throughout brownstone Brooklyn and now finds himself holding on to some pretty significant assets that he can no longer use in the manner intended.
Obviously, Mr. Fried could sell his buildings or convert them to either condos or apartment rentals. However, running a flophouse is a pure cash business, and there is a lot of untraceable and “non-taxable†money to be made in the whorehouse/drug den/SRO business (great for drugs, illegal money laundering, etc.), not to mention the lucrative City contracts to house the homeless; people he tries to turn into crack addicts and hookers. Given such strong economic considerations, Moses Fried has no interest to do anything other than what he initial intended to do with these buildings – run them as drug and sex emporiums.
In order for his illicit business to exist and thrive, Mr. Fried needs the local community to be passive, indifferent and complacent and also vilified and perceived as a dangerous threat to the outside world. Why? Well he needs to scare away any potential activist minded gentrifiers and dormant black sympathizers who might attempt to derail his plans and hurt his business. In addition, he needs to create an environment where lawless and a criminal element can be nurtured and promoted. And guess what? For the past two years, Moses Fried and his goons at the Prince Hotel Group have been doing everything in their power to derail community efforts to clean up the areas around their hotels. They allowed their properties to fail into tremendous state of disrepair in an effort to invite filth and blight to the community and drive out decent hardworking residents. They’ve approached numerous property owners in the immediate area and offered to relieve them of the burden of living in the “ghetto†by graciously attempting to purchase their homes at 1985 prices. And last but not least, they’ve been on Brooklyn blogsites all over the web bashings nabes like Clinton Hill and PLG non-stop in an effort to derail gentrification and any other positive community development that might endanger their business. He knows very well that without a cesspool to call home, his hooker hotels could not exist.
By now everyone on this board should know that this troll is clearly under the employ of the Prince Hotel Group. I went back through about 25 threads on PLG and the Lefferts Hotel and witnessed the same troll tirelessly and systematically sabotaging every board with respect to these two areas. By virtue of his writing style, tone and penchant for praising, talking to, and arguing with himself, it became abundantly clear that the PLG troll and Lefferts Hotel troll are two of the same. Given these desperate measures, I can only surmise that Mr. Fried finds himself in quite a dire predicament. I’m happy to see that Mr. Fried and his minions are finally feeling some real heat and succumbing to the pressure. Hopefully, in a few years they’ll also feel the solitude and coldness of a federal prison cell.
Trust me. There is a huge case here. I sense it. And at some point this house of cards will come crashing down.
Sincerely,
Former Assistant United States Attorney
The Criminal Division of the US Attorney Office
for the Eastern District; with many friends and contacts still on the job.