270 Greene Avenue: Not a Good Looking Building
When we first wrote about 270 Greene Avenue near the eastern edge of Clinton Hill over a year ago, one commenter had this to say: This project in particular scares me. It’s prime real estate really, just happens to lie one block out of the historic district. I go by it everyday and have a…
When we first wrote about 270 Greene Avenue near the eastern edge of Clinton Hill over a year ago, one commenter had this to say:
This project in particular scares me. It’s prime real estate really, just happens to lie one block out of the historic district. I go by it everyday and have a number of reasons for thinking its another cheapo. Hope i’m wrong.
Now that the building’s nearing completion, it’s fair to say that the commenter was not wrong. What a bummer.
Development Watch: 270 Greene Avenue [Brownstoner] GMAP P*Shark DOB
Can someone tell me what is wrong with the building. It’s vast an improvement from what was there before. Perhaps another developer would have chosen a brick facade. Who knows if that would have been a better idea.
I walk by the building often have taken note that others people seem to think it looks fine as well. I also think until the windows (i guess) are installed on the right side of the buiding and the shed is removed the jury is still out.
What is with the comment from the guy “…get with the program” does the Brownstoner have a program ? If it involves determining what is acceptable esthetics for the community I dare him to say that for the record. Otherwise, a comment to the contrary would be constructive.
Interesting, 9:44. So in a landmarked zone, esthetics by committee is ok, but not otherwise? I guess communism is in the eyes of the beholder.
re: zoning changes and community’s rights to stop development (separate comments).
first, the zoning changes: changing the bulk will certainly the way a building engages the street. however, i don’t really think your issue is with the bulk. its the choice of materials, fenestration etc.
which brings us to the second comment, regarding the community ‘stopping’ such development.
what an awful idea. i’m sorry, but design by committee never, ever works. what aesthetic guidelines would a community impose? and how would they execute control?
unless it is a landmarked community (which I don’t have a problem with) it sounds, at best, communist. and, to be frank, the interests of the existing residents is always going to be at odds with new development, and most likely, at odds with the overall best interest of the future of the community.
BKNYKEV. Excuse me, but did’t you see B’stoner rule this one a bummer? Get with the program.
I have to say, this building in not nearly as bad as I expected. It’s not great, but as 11:06 says, it beats looking at what was there. And it could have been a LOT worse. Down the block at the corner of Grand is the building commonly referred to on this site as the ugliest in Brookyn.
To the guest who commented at 12:39, the building going up on Greene near Franklin Ave. is supposed to be 12 floors, so they’re only about a third of the way up. (YIKES! I think it got approved before the rezoning.)
The lot that’s closer to Classon (the two lots, I believe, are one block west of where the original poster indicated) has a basement/foundation that looks to be about the size of a regular brownstone. I can see it from my roof. So maybe that second lot is going to be filled with row houses or something. (But more than likely, it’s the beginning of something bigger.)
1:12. Dob permits don’t cover somebody’s idea of attractiveness. If they did, half the buildings in New York wouldn’t get built.
12:41 – not really, you have building codes, Dob permits, FAR, etc. The use of your property is highly regulated, especially in NYC
12:14pm. You could buy up all the land in your neighborhood and retire it. Owning = control.
i’m holding my breath to see what’s going up on the next block over on greene, btwn franklin & bedford. there are two massive lots with new condos going up…has anyone seen drawings? could potentially make or break this stretch. like a lot of bk, you have 1 block that’s ugly, and then right next door it’ll be gorgeous, as is greene btwn bedford/nostrand.