Pols, DOT: Parking Permit Program For Many 'Hoods
At Monday’s forum about residential parking permits, the hottest topic of discussion was which Brooklyn neighborhoods would be included in the program. According to reports on Streetsblog and Brooklyn Streets, Carroll Gardens, people from some neighborhoods charged that the current plan (which for the most part only covers areas close to Downtown, as per the…
At Monday’s forum about residential parking permits, the hottest topic of discussion was which Brooklyn neighborhoods would be included in the program. According to reports on Streetsblog and Brooklyn Streets, Carroll Gardens, people from some neighborhoods charged that the current plan (which for the most part only covers areas close to Downtown, as per the map based on an an ’04 study above) would cause too much traffic and jostling for spots in un-permitted neighborhoods. A representative from the DOT, however, said that RPP would be available for a number of neighborhoods on an opt-in basis. Councilman de Blasio (other politicians in attendance included Councilman Yassky and Councilwoman James) floated an idea for placing RPPs all over the city near subway lines, therefore discouraging drivers from park-and-ride behavior. A pilot RPP program could go into effect as early as spring 2009, though that target date hinges on the congestion pricing timetable.
DOT: Relax Brooklyn, Parking Permits Not Just for Downtown [Streetsblog]
RPP Forum Wrap-Up [BSCG]
Downtown Brooklyn RPP Study [Brooklyn Chamber
I am about to move into a condo in Downtown Brooklyn (presumably will be zoned for the RPP) and I don’t own a car but rent every couple of weeks. I think quite a few people in Brooklyn are like me. This plan presents a real hardship for people like us.
I guess I just have to repeat my premise:
New Yorkers are irrational when it comes to cars and driving.
They can’t even make sense when talking about it.
Read that past several posts. Kafka? Bad Iranian translator? Korean assembly instructions?
Okay Guest 1:45PM, my prissy persona officially offers apologies (but not to any of the multiple car-owning freeloaders who actually do practice this scam).
Hey RJLovie, thank you for your sane response. In answer to your question, the people who make it hard for residents to park in local neighborhoods aren’t shoppers, they are local city employees. The sad political reality is that they run the place (thank you term limits!) and will never allow RPP unless they get to park, too.
The areas under consideration are pretty much at the intersection of nearly every form of public transportation. There is no reason whatsoever why these people have to drive. But there is no point is protesting. They must have their parking goodies, or no deal for the rest of us.
Johnife and RJLovie,
Guest 1:45PM here. I’m sorry I misexpressed myself and was misunderstood. At least it got your juices flowing! My, my! Anyway…the car that lives out-of-state really DOES live there. It is used there and the person who owns and drives it works there, pays taxes there, votes there, etc. The driver and car only come down to Brooklyn, maybe, once a month for a couple of days.
As I said, even though the driver of the car is also a homeowner (on the deed) here in Brooklyn and emotionally considers it a second home, the driver is out-of-state with the car most of the time.
So, as I was saying. We will probably not be able to get a permit (and if the permits are $125 it might not even make sense to bother getting one for the couple of days per month it might be used).
Yes…long distance relationships have their issues.
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It can work in Boston. And LA. And Chicago. And DC. And London. And Hong Kong. Somehow all these people can figure it out.
But here? In NYC? I guess we can’t even TRY something new here.
New Yorkers are irrational on the subject of private transportation. Irrational. I pity the politicians and DOT officials who have to deal with the nutty neighborhood associations from dense, multi-use, urban districts like Brooklyn Heights, who want to be more like Forest Hills Gardens or Breezy Point.
And, I don’t want to be sexist here, but I notice it is mostly the ladies at the forefront of this. What is it about women and cars? Is it something very deep having to do with fathers, boyfriends, and mechanics?
Now there’s an area of study.
I own a house in Clinton Hill.
I think I would like to be able to park in front of my house.
But that means you can’t park anywhere else.
You want to drive to Park Slope, that is fine but make sure you park your car behind you, in front back in your house.
Are you people crazy!!!!!
This is designed to benefit the city only and collect extra money from us.
What is the point to have a parking permit if front of your house if you can’t park where you want to go?
Stupid idea!!!!!
As a person who has her vehicle legally registered in this city and pays through the nose in car insurance, I would agree to pretty much any idea that helped root out all of the people committing insurance fraud in New York (like the guest at 1:45).
I lived in a city with residential parking permits… it was a college town that didn’t want students coming in a parking on the streets rather then paying for university permits. It wasn’t so bad. I don’t think it would be a big deal to issue permits to tenants… all you need is a utility bill to prove tenancy. Update your proof once a year when you pay for the permit. I feel like permits wouldn’t change evening parking that much… I mean we all pretty much practice zoned parking right now in the evenings, because we all try to park as close as possible to our homes. I think as long as I could use my neighborhood permit as a short term permit in other nabes to conduct my business (2 hrs seems fine to me) I would be ok with residential permits. What I don’t get is issuing permits to workers, not residents. I’m just scratching my head on that one completely.