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Thanks to a tipster with an unusual view, we’ve got some fun pics of the never-before-seen backyard of Toll Brothers’ North8 development (which, incidentally, we think is pretty good looking as far as these things go. Agree?) There’s definitely a fishbowl effect going on though!
North 8: Shangri La on the East River [Brownstoner] GMAP
Toll Brothers in the Burg: 49 North 8th Coming [Brownstoner]


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  1. Maybe it’s just that everything goes in cycles. Soho- where i worked for years- was like that. Once the big chains got interested, that was it. It became the disneyfied version of itself. Until the mid-90s Soho was filled with odd, edgy, artistic people, amazing stores and cutting edge art galleries. It was a little dangerous then, but had a wonderful vibe between the artists, the odd shops, the manufacturing. It’s nothing like that now.

    Coney Island will go the same way- it’s unique character and grit will get cleaned up, averaged out and become a theme park of its former self.

    People love character filled places like the old Soho, they follow the artists basically, then force them out as developers put up more and more expensive buildings, rents go up, and the local mom and pops are forced out.

    Sometimes it’s just all about the hype. And sometimes you just have to give the What his due- theres no guarantees things will happen as he says, but he’s definitely no dummy.

  2. Um, not to go with the What entirely, but as goes finance, so goes New York. I think if you’re working in a service-related industry (and yes, that’s pretty much all the creative fields, who are above this petty financial bs but yet can afford to buy $800K condos… ), you’re going to see some correction.

    In the mid-eighties, the east village had a huge gallery scene. I know this because I was in college and read about it. When I arrived in New York in 1989, it was all gone. All the galleries were shuttered, the adjacent businesses closed. Sure, some individuals were still art superstars, but the art scene itself contracted for several years to come, retreated back to Soho, and tons of caterers, restaurant owners, advertising directors and stylists lost their shirts, sublet their apartments, and moved to Prague. I know this too, because I sublet from them.

    I know Williamsburg has the hype right now to the point where someone can doodle a stencil on a lampost and get 100K hits, but I worry about the longevity, and at a point, I’m sorry, but I just don’t get it: Europeans? Family money? At the end of the day, the apartments aren’t even that nice!

  3. 3.47 – I don’t know what NAG have been telling you but the Transgas battle is far from over. Transgas appealed, and the city is very far from owning the land.

    Will be very nice though IF it happens.

  4. 3:39,

    You mean the blue-white Treatment facility on N11th? You mean the the one that is being torn down since the city took control of that land from TransGas a few weeks ago? You mean the plot of land that is going to be replaced with more waterfront park? Ah you shouldn’t assume I’ve never “actually been to the hood.”

    I live *two* blocks from the park and go have gone to N.A.G. meetings.

    I love how people attack people with stupid “YOU’VE NEVER BEEN THERE COMMENTS”

    I’ve never said the views are THE BEST IN THE CITY. I just said they’re jaw-dropping/good. Sure they’re like 4 places in ALL of NYC that have better waterfront views, but that doesn’t make these views shit.

  5. 3.13 – the view from the park front is not the same as the view from the condos due to the huge warehouse on N11 between Kent and the river. Of course, it helps if you’ve actually been to the hood before you comment.

  6. “jawdroppingly gorgeous”

    ok, you’ve outed yourself as a clueless tard.

    Go to 1) LIC Gantry Park; 2) Brooklyn Heights promenade 3) Dumbo 4) Water’s Edge south of the Queensboro bridge, and then come back and tell us that the views from the park at N8 are “jawdroppingly gorgeous”.

    As far as East River views go its opposite the lamest stretch of Manhattan. The upside to N8 is that the park is not getting towers, so your mediocre views are protected.

    I’m sure your slack jaw is always dropped.