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A victim of the downturn? Given the timing and circumstances of this new listing at 370 Clinton Street in Cobble Hill, it sounds like the seller is in trouble. She closed on the 6,000-square-foot house last September for $2,650,000 and in the last four months has gutted the interior and commissioned complete architectural drawings for a planned make-over. The plans are part of the package for anyone willing to come up with the asking price of $2,995,000. It is a pretty exciting opportunity for someone who wants to create a living space from scratch: great location, beautiful shell. The only question: Price.
370 Clinton Street [Corcoran] GMAP P*Shark


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  1. wine lover –

    I think you’ve somehow justified in your head how much space you need and seem to be defensive about it. If you can afford a lot of space and apparently more room for your dryer than I had for my first bedroom, then congrats, but I wholeheartedly disagree that a family “needs” that much space. I grew up in Manhattan in an 750 sf 1 bedroom with a built-in wall for my ~200-250 sf bedroom. Fortunately, we had laundry in the basement, and it was cramped at times in the winter, but I spent most of my time playing outside or did homework at local diners. Things were tight, but we figured it out. Again, it doesn’t mean I’m a better person or had a terrible childhood (quite the opposite), but we all make choices about what is a necessity, and it’s great you can afford yours. I really think “need” is a relative term.

  2. “I think you’re the brick wall 11217. as indoctrinated in your dogma as the Mao youth of my youth.
    Instead of waving a little red book you’re waving a little green one and hoping that those who disagree with you die. nice”

    Beautifully put. Thank you.

  3. I know lots of people with cars who do not commute to the suburbs. (Not me, but friends, and tons of people in my neighborhood, esp those with kids.)

    That said, this is by far the easiest city in the US for non-drivers to travel 24/7 without a car.

  4. The mongabay article is about metro areas, not cities: New York-Northern New Jersey-Long Island, NY-NJ-PA

    There aren’t any other cities in the US that can match New York’s transportation infrastructure and carbon footprint. If people in NYC drive it is if they have a commute to the suburbs.

  5. Denton,

    I’m sure you’re right, but we’re finding out from this website, that there are plenty of New Yorkers who live in 3000 sf – 6,000 sf homes and think that’s “normal” also.

    Driving around Park Slope and looking for a parking space for 40 minutes might pollute more than an hour commute from Costa Mesa to downtown LA on the freeway.

    It also sounds as though by the way he talks that Sam’s carbon footprint is much larger than the average New Yorker and thank goodness there are those that live 3 to a room to offset his luxurious lifestyle. I forgot though…as he’s already told me before…I’m just jealous.

  6. That mongobay thing is highly misleading. Pls see this comment at the end:

    “Per capita carbon emissions from transportation and residential energy use, 2005”

    There’s another article in the NYT about the same study.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/29/us/29pollute.html?ref=us

    Much of this study assigns carbon for things that people have no control over, like whether they live near hydropower, or near a port.

    To say that a Manhattanite (or Brooklynite) living in a 300sft studio who walks to work and doesn’t own a car and has no room to buy stuff is less green than an Angeleno with a 3000sft house and three cars and a pool is ridiculous.

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