Split Decision on House of Detention
Yesterday’s decision in State Supreme Court regarding the future of the Brooklyn House of Detention had something in it for both sides: The city expressed pleasure with the ruling that allows it to resume operating the 759-bed jail as it did prior to closing it in 2003. (It’s been operating it on at a reduced…
Yesterday’s decision in State Supreme Court regarding the future of the Brooklyn House of Detention had something in it for both sides: The city expressed pleasure with the ruling that allows it to resume operating the 759-bed jail as it did prior to closing it in 2003. (It’s been operating it on at a reduced capacity since last November.) Neighborhood activists and politicians who have been speaking out against the city’s plan to double the jail’s capacity in a half-billion-dollar build-out were happy with the part of the decision that required any future expansion to be prefaced by environmental and land use reviews. The lawyer for the opponents, Randy Mastro, called the ruling a huge victory for the community and a vindication of its right to meaningful public input before the city commits itself to such massive projects. Opposition group Stop BHOD and other community groups and public officials will be holding a protest on the steps of City Hall tomorrow at 11:30 a.m.
Court Allows Brooklyn Jail to Reopen [NY Times]
Judge Clears Reopening of Brooklyn Jail [NYT/City Room]
Brooklyn House of Detention Can Reopen, Judge Rules [NY Daily News]
Judge: City can reopen House of D [Brooklyn Paper]
Judge Reopens Jail Doors [Brooklyn Eagle]
Top salary for CO’s is about 95K WITHOUT overtime. They reach it in only five years and most of the CO’s working in the Brooklyn House have more than five years on the job. Welcome them back to the hood. They will probably be the only ones left who can afford to buy $600 Mark Jacobs pumps!
“BH76- on another one of the HOD threads, someone mentioned that the HOD shold be moved because now BH, CH and CG were real neighborhoods. Makes me wonder what they think these neighborhoods were before? Skateboards?”
Posted by: bxgrl at March 19, 2009 3:42 PM
Really? That is ridiculous and ignorant. BH, CH, and CG were “real neighborhoods” back in 1913 when my grandmother arrived. There were “real neighborhoods” when it was built. They are “real” today.
I know you didn’t say it bxgrl, just can’t believe it was said.
I said it once and I’ll say it again, they city could bring it back to full capacity without telling anyone and no one would know the difference.
The HOD hasn’t hurt the neighborhoods since it was built, it wont hurt then now.
“The retards on Brownstoner are a sight to behold. They take stupidity to a new level…”
No kidding! I have read MORE stupid, uninformed, inane, ignorant and insulting comments here on Brownstoner than anywhere else in my entire experience. It really is amazing sometimes!
BH76- on another one of the HOD threads, someone mentioned that the HOD shold be moved because now BH, CH and CG were real neighborhoods. Makes me wonder what they think these neighborhoods were before? Skateboards?
So when a boutique on Atlantic selling $600 Mark Jacobs pumps fails, brooklyn gent and others will blame the HOD and not the economy and the diminishing number of 25 year-olds making $150K plus bonus. Those of use who have lived in the neighborhood all along know better…
“GROWN on people?? “Alien presence???” It’s a JAIL for LOCKING PEOPLE UP! It’s not SUPOSED to “grow” on anyone!! Man, I really have to agree with the What! What in God’s name are some of you thinking?? It’s been there as a jail- for generations – and the surrounding neighborhood has IMPROVED in that time.”
See East New York!! You thought I was crazy, right. The retards on Brownstoner are a sight to behold. They take stupidity to a new level…
The What
Someday this war is gonna end..
The old Navy yard Brig was originally owned by the US Government and turned over to the City. It was old dilapidated and not near the State Courts. It had to be rebuilt anyway.
I live in the neighborhood of the HOD for 30 years, it never has been a serious problem except for parking. There was one escape and the person immediately left the area- no one stays in the area they escape from. But there have been occasional problems with visitors to the jail(they also visit the court as well and that isn’t going any place)
Yes some luxury housing was built across the street(on a site that would have made an excellent expansion place for the jail and the court). They are the big complainers about this as are the newly built single family houses on State Street.
I would prefer if it wasn’t expanded however. The employees will park where ever they want and while they will patronize some of the businesses, the newer businesses aren’t for them(or for me for that matter)
BUT no neighborhood wants a new jail. When people say move it somewhere cheaper they are really saying is move it some place poorer(more minority). That’s not happening either. Also the cost of construction doesn’t change only the cost of the land which here the City already owns. There is an additional cost if you move it somewhere else-transportation and pollution costs increase.
Oh wait! I thought of another snarky comment… Sorry I didn’t think of it earlier. They should totally convert it to condos, since the architecture is way nicer than a lot of the crap that’s been going up. 😉
I agree w/bxgirl and others… This thing has been here for as long as I remember. It’s not like they just built it. It’s a wart in the nabe that you’re just going to have to love, and over time you will forget about it. I think it’s highly unlikely that axe maniacs are going to escape from there and run across the street into Brooklyn Industries to hold shoppers hostage. (Although maybe good idea if they did – KIDDING!!) And I know some people won’t like this, but I think it’s “better” to have the facility in a functioning nabe next to the courthouse than relegated to a borderline, struggling nabe that wouldn’t need any new problems.