peter-young-homeless-shelter-0609.jpgAt a packed meeting on Thursday night, the Housing Committee of Community Board 8 voted unanimously to oppose the re-opening of the closed Peter Young Homeless Shelter. Operated for years in a space at 1138 Pacific Street, the shelter was closed by the City several months ago (and turned into a 24-hour detox center) and was supposed to remain closed to help compensate the community for the city relocating its main homeless intake center to the Bedford-Atlantic Armory right across the street; the city even talked about turning a portion of the Armory into a track and field center at the time. But not only is the sports facility not happening, the city wants to reopen Peter Young. This committee vote must now be ratified by the full Board at its regular June meeting next Thursday, at 7 PM at the Center for Nursing and Rehab, on Classson between Park Place and Prospect Place.


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  1. Dr. Dean Franklin- actually big jugs just doesn’t want the homeless in his neighborhood so he feigns a little righteous indignation because he would never put his money where his mouth is and live next to a shelter, residence or halfway house (but honestly- what can one expect from a person who calls himself “big jugs?”)

  2. Also, for the record, I’m not really concerned about my property value, since I don’t plan to move for a while. I also don’t really consider the homeless men hanging around B-A to really present that much danger (but many of my neighbors do). My main problem with it is that concentrating so many people with so many problems in such a small area totally changes the feel of the neighborhood. More trash on the street, more men pissing between cars, harassing women, publicly drinking and generally posing a nuisance in a dozen ways. This is a residential neighborhood full of families. We should do our part and shoulder a reasonable amount of these services in this neighborhood, but we shouldn’t absorb it for the whole city.

    I’d have a harder time opposing this plan if it wasn’t so obviously (except to Big Jugs!) such a bad policy for the homeless. Does it make sense to concentrate homeless men in an area far away from any jobs, where drugs can still be purchased on the corner and gangs are visibly active? Is this the kind of environment that is going to help them get their lives on track. Hey BJ – why do you think the Partnership for the Homeless and Picture the homeless are against the plan and suing the City? Because they want to prop up my property values?

    Just curious Big Jugs – where do you work? Feel free to be vague, but I’m really curious about where you are coming from. Thanks.

  3. What’s up Big Jugs!

    You never answered me on the Armory thread the other day, and that made me feel bad! So, like I asked, do you think this is a good plan for the homeless or for Crown Heights North (my neighborhood)? Or do you just not care? I’m really curious. If you have an argument for this policy, I’d like to hear it. Most of us in this community are not arguing that all homeless services be removed from our neighborhood – just that we have a more reasonable amount. I think a lot of us would be fine with doing more than our fair share. But we already have 6X the boro average BEFORE the intake center. What part of this don’t you get? Send me a separate email and I’ll explain it more to you if you are still having trouble (I don’t want to make everybody suffer through the somewhat simple explanation again).

  4. “It takes nerve for you to accuse bloomberg of not caring when you and your neighbors are bending over backwards to keep the homeless out of your community. if you want to see someone who doens’t care and who care only about money (i.e. your property values), look in the mirror. In the end, this will all be moot, because your opposition is far too weak to stop this.”

    The What throws Big Jugs a box of Skittles!

    The What

    Someday this war is gonna end…

  5. It takes nerve for you to accuse bloomberg of not caring when you and your neighbors are bending over backwards to keep the homeless out of your community. if you want to see someone who doens’t care and who care only about money (i.e. your property values), look in the mirror. In the end, this will all be moot, because your opposition is far too weak to stop this.

  6. Actually I think its more cynical than that. Knowing Bloomberg is all about the bottom line, my belief is that he is hoping fewer and fewer homeless access city services.

    I’m sure he’d like them to leave but I think he cares more on how much money he thinks the city will save. To relocate would take a lot of money- there’s no way any other city will deal with our homeless when I’m sure they have plenty of their own. I really believe he cares nothing about anything besides Manhattan and his disneyfied concept of how he thinks it should be.

  7. quote:

    Then there are those who suspect that the whole plan is part of a mayoral initiative to simply drive homeless people out of New York City by making resources so slim and hard to access.

    ding ding ding ding ding! we have a winner!. they will be led out systemically via things like this to areas upstate like Troy and Schenectity, poughkeepsie. believe me, that has been the plan all along, i dont even have to use the psychic side of my brain to realize that.

    *rob*

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