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There is more than $3.1 billion of construction projects in the pipeline for the one mile stretch of Flatbush Avenue between the Manhattan Bridge and the Williamsburgh Bank building, calculates The New York Post this morning. Here’s how it breaks down: flatbushtally.jpg
In addition, there’s another $1 billion in projects off the northern end of Flatbush and, of course, a $4 billion project some of you may have heard of called Atlantic Yards. “Flatbush Avenue is the borough’s quintessential boulevard and the gateway into Brooklyn,” said Joseph Chan, president of the Downtown Brooklyn Partnership. “It is to Brooklyn what Broadway is to Manhattan, and it is poised for some dramatic change.”
Boom on Flatbush [NY Post] GMAP


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  1. David- you illustrated my point-“but the middle class and rich leaving had ZERO to do with city services (which were actually quite good – NYC school system = best in the world for example).” in your reply to Beeotch. Yet you and every other pro development w/o boundaries person keeps claiming that gentrification will bring improved services. funny- it was done before because it was for the good of all, and now you claim it can’t be done except for the forces of gentrification.

    Sure there are lots of reasons for the rise and fall and rise again of neighborhoods- but it is cyclical, not linear.

  2. Anon 9:09, not historical accounts, but…

    Try being white and walking past the Farragut Houses. You’ll be afraid of black people.

    Try being Asian and walking through the Fulton Mall. You’ll be afraid of black people.

    Hell, try being black, young, and male. You’ll be afraid of other black people.

  3. I could understand blacks leaving the south to escape whitey but why would whites leave the city to escape blacks? Elaborate please. As far as I can tell in history black people should be afraid of white people what with the centuries of the slave trade and then Jim Crow/colonialism and currently the risk of being shot 40 or 50 times by the gustapo looming over our heads. But why a white people afraid of black people? Please sight historical accounts. I can show you pictures of the atrocities practiced against black people so you might want to include that yourself.

  4. Beeotch – sorry but the middle class and rich leaving had ZERO to do with city services (which were actually quite good – NYC school system = best in the world for example).
    They left b/c of the migration of southern blacks escaping Jim Crow, they left b/c the baby boom generation left so many people looking for family sized homes, they left b/c the autombile age and road building opened up the suburbs -which with the lawn, garage and open air seemed like manifest destiny all over again, they left b/c in a country obsessed with new and the future, the city seemed old and boring and the suburbs (and in the Bronx – Coop City) seemed to be where “it” was happening.

    There are hundreds of social, economic and political reasons why people left the city in droves but very, very low on the list was ‘lack of services’ or ‘too tall buildings’

  5. And just WHY do you think the middle class/rich left? Well, what can we say? can’t teach old morons new thinking.

    more development= more strain on the infrastructure

    nothing get built because we have shortsighted, ignorant, uncomprehending and uneducated politicians and moneymen who are too piggish and stupid to put money where it’s needed. Of course it doesn’t help that simpleminded “social philosophers” who can’t analyze worth a damn have to post inane commentary under laughably inappropriate names. CommonSense- an oxymoron in every sense of the word.

  6. Gotta side with Dave here. NYC went downhill because the middle class/rich left and the crime rocketed out of control. Yes, we should preserve the middle class. How about we kick the losers out of NYCHA and give them to the middle class?

    More development=more services to the community. And the reason nothing infastructure wise gets built is becuase people like the ones on this board complain all day long about it…

  7. david,those are excuses and not very good ones. Show me one person in this City who would object to improving infrastructure- especially mass transit. Since we depend on it, we would very very much like it improved, do for things like that nimbyism is not the reason. The build it and they will fix it idea is nice but didn’t work in Williamsburg.Where’s the improved infrastructure?

    If things progressed in a linear fashion you could interpret the problem as too many people in or out- but it’s circular, and spiralling. There are reasons people left their neighborhoods- you only look at one part of the progression. That said, as noted in the Times, we are years away from any solutions and so far as I can tell, the only subway they are looking to improve are the lines in Manhattan going crosstown, or on the East side. And since it looks like it won’t happen there, I can hardly credit it happening here. they call it urban planning- when did they forget the planning part? Trust me, if they can do enough “urban planning” to allow Ratner to build, or the waterfront to be developed, they can plan to build the infrastructure to support it. And when they don’t, who do you think will be complaining loudest? the people who pay big bucks and feel “entitled.” The infrastructure keeps a city helathy- when was the last time you heard of a guy being healthy with a bad valve? thats how infrastructure works- the whole has to be healthy or the system will break down.

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