LPC Makes It Official at Alice & Agate Courts
Yesterday LPC head Robert Tierney, Council Member Al Vann and about two dozen people celebrated the designation of the Alice and Agate Courts Historic Districts with a ceremony to unveil two new street signs and an announcement that five residents had won LPC grants totaling $84,000 to help restore their historic, 19th century homes. The…
Yesterday LPC head Robert Tierney, Council Member Al Vann and about two dozen people celebrated the designation of the Alice and Agate Courts Historic Districts with a ceremony to unveil two new street signs and an announcement that five residents had won LPC grants totaling $84,000 to help restore their historic, 19th century homes. The grants, which come from the Commission’s Historic Preservation Grant Program and range from $12,000 to $20,000 apiece, are going to be used to repaint, repoint and repair the facades of five homes on both of those streets. Alice and Agate Courts are the 21st historic district designated under Tierney, 12 of which have been outside of Manhattan. Guess how many have been in Brooklyn? Seven. Top notch!
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perhaps prezanon you should read all of rob’s comments and then analyze that. First he complains that its money spent in a “ghetto” neighborhood, then he calls it “bumblef*ck”, and then posts that probably only 5 people in the neighborhood pay income taxes anyway. You see where this is going- it isn’t just one comment. But then, if you don’t get, you just don’t get it.
One further point regarding rob- since he’s complaining about taxes. Rob claims he hasn’t paid his taxes, nor is he repaying his college loan. So ok- if you don’t think he’s racist, can we admit he’s a hypocrite? And insofar as insults- you’ll notice that while I made a statement as to my opinion of how I would rather my tax money to be spent, rob immediately called it moronic. So please- if you’re going to opine on the who, where and whatever of rob, educate yourself first as to exactly what you’re talking about. (Of course if you think bumblef*ck is seriously witty, I worry about you.
The “our kids will pay because we’re spending 700 billion” is a tired argument. McCain supporters are desperate and they’re running out of ammo.
The President said in more words or less “monumental crisis calls for monumental spending”.
We are all paying for past spending. Deal with it. Our kids will be well prepared.
bumblef*ck brooklyn (?) lol ! *Rob* LPC
How can one interpret that as racist? Then use other name-calling and insults on top of that. Intelligence words seems to be the insulting words du jour. When will this stop on Brownstoner?
Get a grip. Rob wasn’t being racist and it was someone else who first brought up the subject of taxes. (It is easy to see why a person who pays a great deal of taxes [1:57 pm] would be upset by the taxes issue and so may be forgiven for this.)
Attacks on Rob are not only unnecessary but way off-base. See, worked on saying that without name-calling.
bumblef*ck brooklyn! Could be anyplace in US, California, or even bumblef*ck Norway, sorry Benson. Seriously witty, I may appropriate bumblef*ck, USA, if I can remember it.
To anyone who is reading this thread for the LPC issue, they may be in need of an apology from the extra baggage here, including this.
BTW, the USA is soon to be in deep bumblef*ck, if the stimulus doesn’t work.
pete-
I agree with you… the keeping up with jones idea – very insightful – and how it enriches the neighborhood and produces further economic activity.
I just did the sidewalk to my house and have seen others in the block doing theirs… can see how these grants could have ripple effects on neighbors and reinvesting in a neighborhood.
“im sorry but cleaning up an ugly old stoop and keeping a neighborhood look like it’s 1899 is not what i want my tax money to go to. calling my comment ignorant just makes YOU look ignorant.”
Rob, have you paid your taxes yet? I didn’t think so. lol…
benson, the hollowing out of the industrial core of this nation is very disturbing to me as well, and one reason I;m putting more and more of my money elsewhere. I agree we need some good public projects, but for the same reasons mentioned, it disgustingly takes a lifetime in this country to do a project. Look at Yucca Mountain, Westway, and the 2nd Avenue Subway. Did I say I am moving my money elsewhere?
Nevertheless, Moses was a serious racist. We have several other issues that are documented, particularly the swimming pool temperature issue. I agree tho, his stock went down too far and needs to come up a bit.
pete- agree with you. It isn’t that I don’t recognize Mose’s achievements. I do. I can’t stand when people deify him though. He had his good and his bad. He was neither a g-d or a demon. Yes he had the vision and foresight to know we needed roads and highways, but in other things, he had a blindspot. And he didn’t care about the people who’s lives he ripped up.
Pete;
Make that 2 beers I owe you (i haven’t forgotten the first). While we may not agree about the Bed-Stuy reno, I give you kudos for your eleoquent words on Robert Moses. And now, it’s near midnight here in Oslo, and time for me to check out.
geez, all the arguing. Sounds healthy. I’ll chime in with my little nothing.
I think the demonization of Moses is greatly overblown. People who think big such as him have added greatly to this city. I wonder seriously if NYC would still be the great city it is today without the infrastructure improvements pushed thru by him. Yes there was damage to neighborhoods and certainly poorer and minority neighborhoods may have experinced more. Yet without the bridges, highways he pushed I don’t think NY would be economically competitive.
Costs of transporting goods in and out would be too much.
Our easy and fast access to countryside and beaches which adds to quality of life and desirability of living here would not exist. For example why would cargo fly into JFK without the highways and bridges to transport the goods around the region and country.
Without a healthy economy more city neighborhoods would have deteriorated and been wiped out.
On the grants for these houses, it can be argued that putting some money into fixing up a block/area greatly encourages others to follow. I would not invest more in my place if I see too many others letting everything go to pot.
It is kind of a keeping up the the Jones idea. If it spreads you’ve generated a lot of economic activity and area continues to attract those who contribute tax wise to city coffers (no matter what Rob says).
The main reason the US has more challenges in building infrastructure is because of its multi-tiered and balkanized government, and also because it is easier here to delay projects in the courts.
Almost all of the desired projects people have cited require approval and funding by at least two or three separate governments (NYC, NYS, NJ, CT etc).
Europe, for example, tends to be more centralized (yes I know Germany is federal, but the states there are less powerful).