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While the talking heads worry over a recession and the people on the street wonder if there will be down market buying opportunities, we thought this would be a good time to check-in on the neighborhood surrounding our site. We like to keep an eye on what’s happening, just like this neighbor from across the street who is watching us work (see pic).

Whole Foods
Our informant tells us that DOB was about to sign off on the latest permit when they realized that they didn’t like the reference datum that the survey was based on. This is after having seen the survey many times. We can relate to the frustration… and we hope they get it worked out soon. We’re anxious for them to get going because having Whole Foods down the street is a huge benefit to our project. We don’t love hearing the constant rumors and all the comments about that damn construction fence. Before the blogosphere, we never could have imagined the endless speculation based on a couple of sheets of plywood.

Sites for Sale
012408-Third-Sites-from-Curbed.jpgCatty-corner from our site are two sites for sale. Per Ken Freeman of Massey Knakal who is representing the owners, some offers are expected this week. (No word on if they’ll be deal-making offers.) From our perspective, retail on the ground floor would be great with office or artist space above. We’d especially love to see artist workspace instead of something like a warehouse for widgets. It seems to us that the attractiveness of the sites would be much improved if the adjacent cement company (incidentally, across the street from our old office) was included but we don’t have any reason to think that the cement company wants to move. Since they are all in a manufacturing zone, we aren’t expecting any offers based on plans for residential development, though we’d be okay with that, too.

New Projects in the Nabe
Last night we toured 116 Third Place, a project so new on the market that Corcoran hasn’t posted pictures of it yet on their website. We care about this project because it could serve as a great comp for us. They are asking for high prices, about $1,000/SF which should make our prices that much more appealing. It’s 5 units with 3 floor throughs, a garden duplex and a penthouse duplex. The finishes are lovely the Henrybuilt carmelized bamboo cabinets look warm while modern, as does the pebble stone floor in the bathrooms. The Subzero fridge and dishwasher have a handsome finish we’re not sure of the material but we loved its matte effect in contrast to the stainless steel so prevalent in today’s market. The building features under floor radiant heat and a keyed elevator to every unit. The elevator is a little bit of a surprise in this size of a building, but it might make a difference in getting the prices they want. The third floor residence is around 1,000-square feet (two bedrooms, two bathrooms). One of our favorite things about this particular unit is the view out the windows from the couch (opposite a gas fire place) of the elevated F-train. You can’t hear a thing and it looks really cool. Even from the generous patio, the noise from the train was negligible. We weren’t able to tour the penthouse duplex but we saw a floor plan and it looks like something you might see in Architectural Digest. But what did we like most of all? Dual flush toilets in every bathroom.

Height Limits Rally Today
Anyone who takes the F or G train from Carroll Street has seen the murals and postings on Democracy Wall protesting the height of a 7-story building planned for that corner, as well as generally protesting buildings higher than the typical 4 or 5 stories in the neighborhood. Last September, CORD (Carroll Gardens Organization to Respectfully Develop) got thousands of signatures on a petition for a moratorium on development over 50′. And this morning there is a rally planned in support of Councilmember Bill de Blasio’s resolution asking for that moratorium and for the City to fast-track its study of downzoning Carroll Gardens. It doesn’t come as a surprise to us that as we’re developing a project, there’s a community protest underway that has the potential to downzone/landmark/etc us to tragic financial consequences. But in this case we’re just happy not to be the cause of the protest and to be safe our plan is for 4-5 story buildings and we’re getting our permit long before any changes can take effect.

Gowanus Rezoning
In addition to potentially studying downzoning in Carroll Gardens, the City’s Department of City Planning has already begun studying Gowanus for rezoning. They kicked off the study last January, but we haven’t heard much new since last July. Since it’s going slowly, we are glad to be doing our project permitted as of right. Our site is zoned residential, which is not true of many of the development sites along the canal or even across the street. We have looked at a number of sites that are in the rezoning framework, and we are much happier developing full steam ahead than trying to be patient over a number of years waiting for rezoning while construction costs escalate and tax exemptions disappear.

Third Avenue Price Inflation
We’re observing the expansion of Park Slope’s influence across not only 4th and 5th Avenues, but all the way to Third Ave, where the converging influence of Carroll Gardens is coming. Fifth Avenue has been Park Slope proper for awhile now and it seems like a new, higher end, boutique or restaurant is opening monthly. Fourth Avenue has places like Mule and Pacific Standard, Le Bleu, The Novo… Third Avenue has not only Whole Foods coming, but also is starting to see sales like the one Brownstoner reported on earlier this week — $10.5M for an old industrial warehouse that the buyer is thinking of making into a pharmacy or some other retail use. Given that the investor is thinking of keeping the building for a retail use instead of building the 80,000-square feet he could get onto the site, or using it for an industrial purpose, we’re thinking that he and the market are seeing a lot of immediate and future potential in Gowanus. This price inflation is good news for us because it reinforces the value of our site not only as development property, but also in the eyes of buyers who want to see amenities in front of them, or at least on the horizon.

Women’s Wear Daily
Our research on the happenings in the nabe aren’t just limited to the usual sources… even the bible of fashion, WWD has something to say about Gowanus…

Inside Third & Bond: Week 20 [Brownstoner]
Inside Third & Bond: Week 19 [Brownstoner]
Inside Third & Bond: Week 18 [Brownstoner]
Inside Third & Bond: Week 17 [Brownstoner]
Inside Third & Bond: Week 16 [Brownstoner]
Inside Third & Bond: Week 15 [Brownstoner]
Inside Third & Bond: Week 14 [Brownstoner]

From our lawyers: This is not an offering. No offering can be made until an offering plan is filed with the Department of Law of the State of New York.”


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  1. About the garbage/recycling — we have designed enclosures for those because we agree that it can look really tacky and awful if not planned for in advance.

    I don’t think we’ve posted the plans for those yet, but we’ll probably do it later when we have the landscaping design ready for show.

  2. Here’s the link back to pictures of our model facade.

    http://bstoner.wpengine.com/brownstoner/archives/2007/10/inside_third_bo_9.php

    You can see the adjacent neighboring buildings in both the Third St facade and the Bond St facade (the blank, white building in that case).

    I’ve talked about radiant floor heating in past comments sections. Like this one:
    http://bstoner.wpengine.com/brownstoner/archives/2008/01/inside_third_bo_14.php#comments

  3. You probably already have posted pics of what development will look like on outside.
    But I can’t find. Just adding my 2cents…
    many – well most – new bldgs seem not to take real consideration of where garbage cans/recycling will be stored. And after all the effort designing a nice front – then after occupied – all the ugly garbage cans get plopped down in front. Really low-class.

    Anyway – good luck with the project. Looks very promising and I think is great location and a great addition to the area. Lots of people squawk and whine about all the new developments – a very vocal bunch – but I believe most of us in the area are very happy about it.

  4. The planned height of Third & Bond is less than 42′ at the street and less than 53′ for the partial penthouse, which is set in the middle of the building–not on the street edge nor the rear yard edge.

  5. About the site catty-corner:
    A representative of the owner of that property came to a 3rd St Association meeting last year to talk about developing it. He wanted artist live-work space above, retail on the ground floor. Looks like he wasn’t able to get it through (due to the manufacturing zoning?) and is now trying to sell. The problem with his retail plan (which probably would be similar with a new buyer) is the size of the space(s). Enormous retail spaces with loading docks don’t usually rent to shops that cater to the neighborhood but to large chain/box stores that just bring traffic and congestion…which might not be appealing to your prospective buyers.
    It’s a beautiful building, though, so I hope it doesn’t get destroyed in it’s development.

    But speaking of small retail catering to the neighborhood, anyone know what’s going on with the deli at 3rd & Hoyt? They renovated 6 months ago, put up a new awning sign, and disappeared…